SUPPLEMENTARY
TO
THE BREVIER LEGISLATIVE REPORTS.
VOLUME ELEVENTH.
Expunging Resolution---Debate in Continuation,
IN SENATE.
FRIDAY, April, 23, 1869.AFTERNOON SESSION.
[IN CONTINUATION-1st column, p. 99.]
Mr. RICE, by leave, offered a resolution as follows:
RESOLVED, That the resolution of the Senate in relation to the correspondence of Lieutenant Governor Cumback with Governor Baker, and the proceedings of the Senate in relation thereto be expunged from the journal of the Senate and that the Secretary of the Senate be directed to write across the face of said resolutions and proceedings, "Expunged by order of the Senate."
Mr. RICE. [Mr. , in the Chair] Mr. President: If no other Senator designs to address the Senate, I will demand the previous question.
Mr. HANNA. If the Senator gives way I will move to set this down for Tuesday next at two o'clock and make it the special order for that hour.
Mr. RICE. I prefer that this thing shall go to a vote without taking up time.
Mr. TURNER. For certain reasons, perhaps improper to express right here now, having committed myself heretofore, I would vote for the resolution, and intend to do so, but I want to make some remarks prior to the time of my doing so, and don't feel this afternoon exactly in the humor.
Mr. CRAVENS. I will ask the Senator from Vigo, [Mr. Hanna,] to extend it one day in order that we may have a full Senate present when the vote is taken. I believe when the resolutions of censure were brought in, time was given to secure a full Senate. I don't expect to consume much, if any time, of the Senate in the discussion of this resolution.
Mr. HANNA. I want time to consider it; so that we may act together in this matter. I don't conceal anything and will agree to make it Wednesday.
Mr. RICE. I think the Senate is about as full tosday as usual. On Tuesday we would run the risk of having half a dozen Senators absent.
SEVERAL SENATORS. "Tuesday," "Tuesday."
Mr. HANNA. I will make that motion That this resolution be the order for Tuesday two o'clock, p. m.
Mr. HOOPER. I move to amend by saying Wednesday at two o'clock.
Mr. LEE. Mr. President. I want to say that I can't see any cause why we should not act on it this afternoon. It has been on the journals too long already. I would like an end on it now.
Mr. TURNER. In all justice to the Lieutenant Governor himself, I think this postponement is desirable. I announce it as a foregone conclusion that these resolutions will be expunged, and it is to his interest to have as many here as possible and let the vote be as large as possible and the opposition as great as possible. It is an act of injustice that many of us feel we have done, and we want to wipe it out. And I think it is desirable, upon the part of the friends of the Lieutenant Governor to fix upon a day when it is likely the most opposition will be made.
Mr. CARSON. My vote depends somewhat upon the discussion, as the language of the resolution now stands.
Mr. FISHER. Mr. President: I do not propose to enter into any extended argument but expect simply to give the reasons for my vote. I suppose it is a foregone conclusion, as the Senator from Daviess [Mr. Turner] says, that this resolution will pass, but I want to put myself right on the record. And justice to those who may differ from the Senator who introduced this resolution would seem to indicate that the time should be postponed long enough to have as full a Senate at possible page: 309[View Page 309] when the final vote comes. I think that part of the Senate who voted for the resolutions this one proposes to expunge held it back day after day in order to get a full Senate, and I think little as the friends of this proposition can do postpone it till next Wednesday. As far as I am personally concerned I don't care any thing about it.
Mr. TURNER. Mr. President: The remark that I made that it is a foregone conclusion that these resolutions will be expunged, I meant to explain, but sat down a little too quick. I am not very well to-day, sir. It unquestionably a foregone conclusion that at some future time those resolutions will be expunged. I know and believe that fact as well as I ever knew or believed anything that had not yet happened; but I want to ask the indulge of the friends of the Lieutenant Governor upon the ground stated by Judge Hanna; that Democrats wish to act as a unit upon this Object and they are not yet prepared. They will be at a future day. What is said here this afternoon will answer the purposes of the present requirements on the other side to make preparation for the great fight to come off next Tuesday or Wednesday.
Mr. BRADLEY. I would prefer that this resolutioa should come up at an earlier day, simply for the reason that I will not be here Tuesday nor Wednesday. Not intimating how I will vote I would be glad to be here when the vote is taken.
Mr. HANNA. I want the reasons that control my vote to go to record. They don't do so in this resolution. Without intimating how I will vote, I expect to put the reasons for that vote upon the record, it in the affirmative; or if in the negative I want to make a short speech. It appears to me under the circumstances it had better go over. I therefore insist upon my motion.
Mr. WOLCOTT. Mr. President: I see no reason for delay. It is true our seats are not entirely full, but the Senate is as full as it usually is. I opposed the passage of the resolutions at the time they were passed, believing it to be a case the Senate had no jurisdiction over, and I think, that it was wrongfully passed, From expressions that have been dropped here by various Senators quite a number of Democrats have expressed their readiness to vote upon this question, so that there can be no doubt but they will vote for expunging the resolutions, and as the entire friends of Mr. Cumback will vote that way, I see nothing to be gained by postponement. If those who have spoken expressed themselves honestly the resolutions will be expunged to-day; it delayed till Tuesday or Wednesday it can no more than be expunged.
Mr. RICE. I have no obejction to its going over till two o'clock Tuesday.
Mr. HADLEY. If it is considered best to postpone the consideration of this resolution, I hope it will not be postponed later than Tuesday, as the Committee to visit the National Soldiers' Home, at Dayton, have arranged to go Wednesday morning early, and that will take away three members of the Senate.
Mr. HOOPER. As there seems to be a disposition to put it on Tuesday I withdraw my amendment.
And then-
The motion to postpone the further consideration of the resolution till Tuesday, two o'clock and make it the special order for that hour was agreed to.
